Brown Queen Diaries
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Brown Queen Diaries
Episode 7: Breaking the Stereotypes
Concept & Host: Priyanka Nomula
Designed & Directed: Sandeep Raj
Presented by: Aussie Talkies
Guest: Hima Naidu
Hima Naidu shares her captivating journey as a model and mother, exploring the intricate balance between career ambitions and familial responsibilities. She emphasises the importance of self-kindness and support systems while breaking stereotypes in both fashion and motherhood, inspiring listeners to embrace their unique journeys.
• Hima Naidu's background and transition from recruitment to modelling
• Influence of motherhood on her modelling career
• The evolution of inclusivity in the modelling industry
• Navigating unsolicited opinions from society
• Importance of fitness and self-care routines
• Balancing personal life, passion, and profession
• The role of a strong support system in her life
• Insights into domestic life and sharing chores with her partner
• Advice for women juggling motherhood and professional aspirations
Brown Queen Diaries by Priyanka Nomula
Directed by Sandeep Raj
Presented by Aussie Talkies
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Welcome to the show Hima. How are you?
Speaker 2:Thank you so much for having me. I'm really good. Melbourne's put up a great weather today, so I really can't complain.
Speaker 1:We're thrilled to have you here today, thank you. So let's start from the beginning, right? Yes, who is Hima Naidoo? Can you tell us a little bit?
Speaker 2:Who is Hima Naidoo, I'm not sure. Always always Hima Naidoo. So I am a really proud South Indian, Yay Originally. Well, I was born in a town in Andhra Pradesh called Chittoor I'm not sure if you've heard of that.
Speaker 2:I was born into an army family, so my dad has an army background, but I was brought up in Bangalore, which is now Bengaluru, so I speak Telugu, which is I mean, you'd probably laugh if I speak Telugu, but that's my mother tongue. But I speak better Kannada than Telugu and, given my dad's army background, I speak Hindi at home with with my family. I'm the oldest of the three siblings that I have and I now I am married I have two kids one human kid and one fur kid.
Speaker 1:I was going to be like did I miss something? Did you say two?
Speaker 2:kids, yes, so yeah, the human kid is 10 years old, her name's Nora, and the far kid, oreo. He's a Cavoodle. He just turned five a few months ago. Wow, yeah, yeah, they're the cutest. And, from a professional point of view, I recently transitioned from being a recruitment business partner in technology to a technology delivery lead, so what I do is basically manage and deliver projects in the technology space.
Speaker 1:That's news for me. I thought you're a full-time model.
Speaker 2:Additionally, I do do freelance modeling, started off with runway. I'm predominantly a runway and high-end editorial model, so that's a bit about me.
Speaker 1:It's lovely to know a little bit of your personal side of your life as well. Thank you. So, coming to your modelling, tell us about. How did you start your journey into modelling?
Speaker 2:We'll have to go back a few years now. Actually it started. So I was, I was in my, I was completing my bachelor's. I don't know if when you were studying they were the fashion shows were a thing then yeah annual day or something.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we used to have all these programs and the fashion show was one of them.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I used to get invited to walk the fashion shows and I actually quite liked the spotlight there. That's how it started. I did a few fashion shows in college and in the fest and it didn't really. Fashion career didn't really take off then because my parents had slightly conservative outlook to fashion then and it could be because the fashion for us was watching fashion tv and I that was kind of just, you know, put on hold. Then I completed my studies, focusing fully on studies, and and not until a few years ago actually, my friends and I had this bright idea of let's participate in a pageant, it'll be fun and look, we just wanted to have some fun, spend some quality time with each other. I didn't win the pageant, I was one of the top five. However, that kind of paved path for me into fashion. I started getting approached with opportunities to do fashion runways and photo shoots etc. And the rest is history history.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's a beautiful journey. Like somebody, we need to take a step forward. Yeah, yeah yeah yeah, so that's great. I'm glad you did that step that right idea with your friends.
Speaker 2:Yeah, look that pageant kind of sparked the interest that I've always had in fashion. And, yeah, people approaching me asking me to work on certain things and yeah, walk the runways or like you know what, let's do it now. So, yeah, that's, that's how it started here you are, I am.
Speaker 1:So we were talking about you. Know your kids, let's say your human kid, right, yeah, um, be becoming a mom, right. Did it influence your career in modeling? If it did, how?
Speaker 2:yeah, becoming a mother profoundly influenced my fashion career, definitely, um I. If anything, I think I've become more stronger and more confident than I ever was, partially also because I wanted to inspire Nora. I wanted to show her that pursuing career or passion doesn't mean you give up on something.
Speaker 2:I think it just comes down to um, just integrating that motherhood and adjusting your life that way you can balance it all, yeah, so, yeah, look, I think, um, my, my daughter definitely inspires me to do more um, and yeah, I want to be a great influence yeah, yeah, that's lovely.
Speaker 1:You need to set a strong example of you know how you can lead. You know multiple things. Yeah, together, yeah, multitasking. Yeah, look, there are challenges there.
Speaker 2:it comes with its own challenges, for sure, but we're working through it and you know, hopefully it's it's not affecting Nora, it's only affecting her in a positive way. That's awesome.
Speaker 1:So we're talking about stereotypes. So what are those stereotypes? You would have come across as a model or as a mom.
Speaker 2:Right, stereotypes. It's one of my favourite topics to talk about. I kind of feel like it's like a huge can of worms which I do not want to open, but I will touch on a few things that I've experienced. You know, in the modelling industry as well, definitely come a long way from how we were a few years ago, when I was starting out into, you know, that modeling career, to how we are now. I remember there used to be a huge list of you know this is what you need to be to be a model, we needed to look certain, we needed to be of certain height, we needed to be in certain age bracket, we needed to have certain body types, but it was amazing to see a few. I think it was a few months ago I attended a runway and you know I saw people from all walks of life walking the runways, people that identified themselves with disability. I saw people in wheelchairs walking, walking the runway and different heights, and you know it was. It was treat to eyes.
Speaker 1:This was the PayPal Fashion Week. Yeah, yes, that was amazing. I attended that and I enjoyed it. I could see, like, yeah, like a pregnant woman walking to RAM. There's a shorter person, taller person, so it was festival for the eyes. Actually, inclusivity is standing out, definitely.
Speaker 2:Yeah, diversity and inclusivity is definitely something that is paving path currently and it's amazing to see and that's probably why my modelling career is at all time high Only because, you know, people are now open to considering models from different walks of life and different sizes, etc. So that's from a modeling fashion point of view. I do want to just touch briefly on you know the societal norms that you know, you and I I'm sure you have experienced it as well. Being a mother and having an ambition, it's it can coexist, but the perception is that as soon as you become a mother and you have an ambition, you're neglecting the familial, you know norm or responsibility, and then that's definitely not the case.
Speaker 2:It, you know, I see myself, you know, kind of balancing. Sure, there's some adjustments, but I am balancing it all well, I think you sure must be, and we don't have to choose one or the other, we can do it all. So, yeah, and you know, that for me has definitely changed as a, as a mother as well, um, and I think it does come down to who you surround yourself with and the kind of support you have.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so, um, yeah, you know, we, we find some of these people who think that they have a right to, you know, give their opinions. You know, yeah, about you need. How are you set in a certain way, or your dress is in a certain way, or you know, maybe you should lose weight, maybe you should gain weight. I mean, this is kind of in a way, they feel like they have kind of right on you yeah do you come across that kind of people?
Speaker 2:yeah, yeah, look, I I did, especially on social media. I mean, sure we have people in our day-to-day lives who have opinion. I mean, coming from the cultural background you and I have similar background, having extended family everyone seemed to have an opinion, and they should right. But we all have rights to have an opinion and and they should right, but we all have right to have an opinion. Um, but uh, I remember I, um, I was, you know, I was. I think it was a 5k run or something. This was um a few years ago and someone, uh, someone I know, their extended family they commented um, I was wearing shorts it was a 5k run.
Speaker 2:It was a hot day, summer, hot day like I don't expect to wear something full, full covering my whole body, right, I was wearing shorts and uh, this family member of mine, um, they're like second cousin um commented saying oh you're, you're a mom, why are you wearing shorts? And I was like, oh, I didn't, like, I didn't expect or I didn't think to take your advice before going into that run.
Speaker 1:Oh, good on you.
Speaker 2:I mean, I obviously didn't say to them because then that would cause bigger issues, but I it's funny how people kind of feel entitled to just comment on everything that you do, especially social media. A lot of you know you post something, there's a lot of negativity. Look, I personally haven't seen a lot of negativity, you know, as much as I see on other people. I mean, even Bollywood stars are not spared, to be honest, I mean, deepika Padukone was, you know, trolled for, you know, faking pregnancy apparently.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like a whole heap of other things and it's actually I think it's getting better. People are respecting other people's boundaries a lot more. But initially it did kind of affect me. You see, you know, say 40 really good comments, people complimenting people in getting inspired by you, which is amazing to see, but that one negative comment on your post kind of brings you down.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it does.
Speaker 2:And, although you don't want to, you subconsciously actually are only thinking about that negative comment as opposed to focusing on.
Speaker 1:It's the mentality that we would have, right? Yeah, we kind of tend to attract to the negativity a little bit more than positive exactly yeah, he's saying it's good, but this one's saying that it's not.
Speaker 2:Yeah yeah, yeah, I think, um, socially, I, you know, I was conditioned to make sure that, um, you know, you, you I don't know if, if you do that too, but, um, you know, just convincing everyone that you're doing the right thing, like, literally, you you're focusing on the negative comments and and, and it used to affect me initially, but I've learned to, and I have a few things that I do to just keep away from that negativity and and just focus on positivity perfect yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:I mean that's the way to go, right. Yeah, that's cool. And following up on that, right, how do you actually shield yourself from these unsolicited opinions? Yeah, like you said, you've you've covered a bit of it, but is there something that you specifically do? You kind of touched on that, but yeah, yeah, look, it wasn't easy.
Speaker 2:Like I said, it's actually taken me a while to actually just block myself and not let those comments affect me negatively. I've come to realize that others' opinion of me is not who I am. Yeah, it's their opinion of me, and a lot of these comments come from people that you don't know of or they're anonymous, like they're just random people scrolling and there's, you know, placing comments on people's posts, especially on social media, and I try to detach myself and not let that emotionally affect me. Yeah, I see I follow a few people here that have a huge following on Instagram and what I've seen them do is they actually bring it out, bring out those negative comments to public and address it publicly.
Speaker 1:That's a good strategy.
Speaker 2:Yes, Look, it takes courage to do that Definitely.
Speaker 1:But actually I think it relieves a weight from you, right, exactly, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah and yeah, and I think that could be another thing that I perhaps could look at, but I really haven't experienced too much negativity. I, if at all, I have people messaging me saying you know, I love what you do and how do you do it, and a whole heap of other things, the things. So I'm trying to focus on that as opposed to, um, you know, focusing on comments that say, uh, oh, you seem to have put on weight. Um, yeah, you, yeah. So, um, yeah, yeah, look it's. I think social media is now becoming a lot more there's a lot of improvement around.
Speaker 1:Yeah, people supporting people like a lot of people are doing this influencing yeah, so everyone's supporting each other. Yeah, there's always downside to it, but I think there is a little bit of a supportive, um kind of culture being. You know, yeah, we can observe in the recent days yeah, cultivating like like having that support group.
Speaker 2:you know, having people that are your, you know supporters that influence you in a positive way, having those people around and focusing on just that support group definitely does the trick. You know you need to surround yourself with people that you can trust and even if they have opinion, you can take that positively as well, as opposed to unsolicited opinions of people that have no idea who you are People.
Speaker 1:that matter to you is what matters. Their opinion matters.
Speaker 2:I know it's easier said than done, but I suppose it's a journey, it's. It's not going to um. Take just one um one comment to um, you know, go past yeah, um that negativity, yeah as a model.
Speaker 1:Do you have some kind of a regime that you follow to keep yourself fit? And you know, obviously we talked about how it has been evolved, but you still are quite a model, right? You're like perfect. So how, how does your daily not daily regime like fitness regime? How does it look like? Well, thank you first of all for saying I'm perfect I don't think I'm anywhere near perfect but um, I'll have to hide my face somewhere if you say that um, I um.
Speaker 2:Look, I think my focus on fitness kind of changed after COVID um you know I used to work out, but it wasn't really my focus. Um, but COVID taught me that health is everything and ever since then and look, I don't really have a fitness regime I try and work out three to four days a week. I am now focused on a lot more strength training as opposed to cardio, which I used to do before.
Speaker 2:I yeah, look, some weeks I'm consistent, I'm going to gym every every other day, but then works, get in your gets in your way. Some days you've had a super busy day at work and you just want to skip gym. I've had that. I've I've lacked motivation to go to gym certain days especially, I guess.
Speaker 2:Yes, it's been hard for me, yeah so, look, I've had my ups and downs for sure, but um, I I suppose, having a caboodle at home, he needs to be walked every day, so walking's actually really good yes yeah, so, um, thanks to him, I'm walking almost every day um and I'm going to gym three days a week.
Speaker 2:I I know a lot of people um have like a diet plan and and a whole heap of other things which I don't. I, I love to eat. I um you must have seen, you know my socials, but I'm literally exploring cafes and and um restaurants every other day.
Speaker 1:I used to feel like does she just post a picture or she actually eats?
Speaker 2:it.
Speaker 2:I don't eat everything I post though, okay, I actually go out with friends that I can share food with, because, yeah, I can only eat so much. Just pick on things. Yeah, I tasted it um I. Yeah, I don't diet, I just I just try and balance it. I, I enjoy, um, what I eat, but then I try and balance it out with you know, fitness, I work out and I do walks etc and and, like I said, it's it's not consistent. It's you know, some months I'm amazing, I've gone to gym every other day, and then some some weeks I, like you, know what I just need, to not do anything wind down yes, exactly yeah yeah, I mean, I feel comfortable now.
Speaker 1:I feel like I'm not alone.
Speaker 2:I have that moment as well, but yeah, I think what's important is to just listen to your body. Really, uh, and you only have one life. Why sacrifice on all the food that you can enjoy? So I mean dieting.
Speaker 1:That whole concept of dieting is a whole new thing that we can talk about. Yeah, you know, it just puts us into this whole pressure of you know, not having to eat shouldn't be eating carbs? Yeah, you know, and there's different kinds of diets. Oh my god, I I can't follow up with those standards.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, I I mean, given where I come from, I cannot live without rice and and and and chapatis and rotis like that's carb we are the carb girls? Yes, that's it. I mean, I cannot imagine myself not having rice. I mean it's not daily. I am open to trying things out, but you know, when I travel and come back home, I want to have rice and dal.
Speaker 1:That's, you know, like my go-to With some ghee on it. Lots of ghee on it. Yes, that's cool. Yeah, how do you balance your three P's Personal life, passion and profession?
Speaker 2:How do I balance my three P's? It's look, I'll be lying if I say it's being balanced really well. Well, I try to keep it realistic and you know, I try to be honest with myself. It's you know, I've had my days. I'm you know, some days I have it all sorted and it's going amazingly well, and, and some days it's not going well and I have mixed emotions. I'm juggling a lot of balls right and chances are I'm going to drop some of them. So what I tell myself is it's okay, it's okay not to have everything going perfectly, um, so it's, it's taken up, taken me a long time, yeah, um, but I am trying to be kinder to myself. Um, you know, you won't have it all sorted all the times. Yeah, and, and that's, that's fine. Some days, um, you know, my personal life would take priority and the other days, my professional life. And you know, some days I have to focus on passion. Um, if you come to my house some days, it will be sparkling and super clean.
Speaker 2:And the other days it would be a mess. Some days I wake up seven o'clock in the morning and out there walking the dog, you know, going on hikes, going out to brunches, you know, looking all pretty. Other days I want to be a couch potato, like I do not want to be waking up before 10 o'clock. So, um, I think I've learned to embrace everything. It's a journey and it's a lot of adjustments, adjusting what needs prioritizing at that point in time.
Speaker 1:So, um, so you have a priority sort of a thing that goes on, yeah, yeah yeah, and the priorities change every week, depending on what I've got on, um, but yeah, it's.
Speaker 2:I suppose it's just adjusting that dial to you know, see which one you want to?
Speaker 1:yeah yeah, but have you ever felt like you're not giving enough time to your family when you're busy with your passion, like, you know, modeling yeah, somewhere outskirts, or you're, you know, at work yeah, sometimes. There's always a need to be focusing especially on your child right, yeah have you had those days and tell?
Speaker 2:us about it. Yeah, like you're a mother yourself, and I think I speak for all the mothers when I say that, as a mother, no matter how much time you spend with your children, it is never enough.
Speaker 1:No, so true. Never, never enough. There's always that guilt.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there's that lingering guilt that you haven't given your child enough time, um, but you know, I think it. It takes that adjusting and embracing and telling yourself um, it's okay, today I'm prioritizing my child, but I also need to um consider my passion and and and fulfilling your passion is actually some way inspiring your children to do the right thing, to follow your dreams, to follow your passion.
Speaker 2:So, um, yeah, I mean, look it's. It's all about balancing, yeah, and, and embracing, embracing the journey, but as a mother, I would always be guilty for not spending enough time. Um, with.
Speaker 1:I mean, on the other side, you're doing all of these. That that's your, that you're passionate about. Yeah, that makes you, you know, sane, I guess, like you know. It makes you balanced, yeah, you know. It gives that kind of contention, yeah, in your life, which means that you can give you a hundred percent to your family as well.
Speaker 2:That that's how I see it, yeah definitely, I mean the prioritizing, like I said, just figuring out what's important at that point in time and then focusing on that. It definitely helps, you know, intentionally, you know intentionally, you know taking some time out for personal life, but when you are with your kid or spending time with your family, being involved fully and, you know, be present here, now, that sort of thing, yes, being present, I think that's all you can do. Really it's. Yeah, I mean, if you're a working mother, uh, following, also following your passion, then um, yeah, it's. It's all about the balancing act and you know, some days it would, yeah, sway the other way, or some days will be yeah, sway along, yeah, way along, yeah, exactly, speaking of that right, we cannot achieve all of this without a strong support system.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so who are your support system? I'm glad you actually brought that up because I'm lucky. I have a great support system surrounding me, great support system surrounding surrounding me my daughter, my husband, my husband and my best friends. My best friends are also godparents for Nora and they, they truly embody. It. Takes a village saying it, yes, it truly does take a village, um, to bring up a child. Yes, definitely, um, and I cannot imagine navigating the journey that I'm currently on without having their support yeah, especially overseas, away from the family.
Speaker 2:You need that kind of yeah, yeah yeah, my, my best friends are family for us here um, I do have my parents, my sister, that support me, but they're more silent supporters because they're overseas yeah um, they're in Canada and India respectively.
Speaker 2:Um, they, yeah, my parents are my sister. They're like my sounding board, they're like my venting ground, um, and I know I will have their back, no matter what. Um, that definitely does does make a difference. So, um, yeah, look surrounding myself with the people that I can trust and, you know, rely on, especially because I have super busy social life. I, you know, I work full time. I have assignments you know, modelling assignments every other weekend. So having them is, yeah, they're like blessing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, blessing. Yeah, I mean it's lucky to have such a good support system. Not everybody is like blessed with that, right, yeah, so we have to consider ourselves I'm lucky as well, so I'm grateful for that yeah, yeah, yeah, I think we should start counting our blessings, to be honest.
Speaker 2:And yeah, yeah, it definitely makes a difference.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah so I've been following you on instagram. You're all out there like everywhere in the events and like all prim and proper and things like that. Just wanted to know how are you inside the house? Are you domesticated at all, like, do you do any chores? I'm'm sounding silly, but I want to know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so what did you say? Chores? What are they? Yeah, I knew it, I knew it. No, well, in all honesty, I may not look like that, but I actually do cook at home, like I cook almost every day during the week, except for Fridays. Fridays are our takeaway days, so we just want to order takeaway and just sit on the couch and watch Netflix series. That's my favourite pastime with Nora. We love doing that. That's our mum and daughter time. To answer your question yeah, well, I, when I don't have shoots and when I'm not socially active and I've had my days. Some weekends are super busy. I'm never home. Other weekends are kind of I want to keep it to myself because I've, like, I've had a few full-on weekends and I'm like, okay, I need some time for myself to unwind and rejuvenate. I, you know, obviously it's not just me doing chores around the house. My partner, he, takes equal responsibility as well. We're doing laundry together, we're cleaning the house together. It's hard to imagine.
Speaker 1:Hema doing that. You should post some of that. Maybe I should post part of that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, look, doing laundry. Folding the laundry takes a bit longer. I hate doing that, that's my least favourite. So we do have a spare room, so all of that laundry actually gets done and I feel sad for that room.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly well it's not used. Now we can actually use it for clothes, which, yeah, you know, makes sense. But, um, yeah, cleaning, um, cooking, grocery shopping, um, everything I would imagine you know you would do when you were free, along with your partner as well. Like I said, I may not look like it, but I actually do quite a lot of chores and I enjoy doing that. I tend to take Nora along as well and she manages the list and reads out what is needed and then we do shopping together. Sounds fun? Yeah, it is, it's. You know that's mum and daughter time. You know, obviously, you know it kind of can be our time. It's different, you know, sometimes we like watching movies, but sometimes we're doing grocery shopping, sometimes we're sitting and painting and drawing. We both love drawing. So, yeah, I do stay at home.
Speaker 1:So you have that side to you. Okay, maybe you should post something so we know that, okay, she's not just a model, but she actually has a life.
Speaker 2:Yes, and my friends will vouch for that because, yeah, I'm not a bad cook.
Speaker 1:so they do enjoy my cooking as well.
Speaker 2:When I cook, they do enjoy my cooking. My husband is a chef, so I don't really have to cook, but I do yeah.
Speaker 1:House of chefs. Yes, yeah, that was lovely. So before we wrap up, right, I'd like to give some advice. I'd like you to give some advice for somebody, like you know, for women who think that they have to choose between their career, passion and, actually, motherhood, like they normally think, that they have to choose one thing and just be in that one thing, right, yeah, what would your advice be?
Speaker 1:I'm not sure if I'm in a position to give advice to people, but you're doing it very well because you have a profession and you do have your personal life and being in Australia we don't have house helps like that we have to do everything as well, and then on the side, you have to take some time out for your passion, right? Yeah, so you're balancing it in one way, the other. Obviously there's ups and downs, yeah. So there are people who think that you have to either be the full-time mom yeah or you just have to focus on your passion, or maybe sometimes they think that if you're doing that, you're not a good mom. Yeah, right, yeah.
Speaker 2:so what's your advice for them? Yeah, look, I think we all have our own unique journey, um, and what works for me may not actually work for others, but what I do, that has worked for me. Um, so, first of all, um, be kind to yourself. It's it's okay to not have it all sorted all the time. It's it's okay to not have it perfectly aligned life. You know, there are days, there are going to be days where you know you, you kind of feel like you have it all controlled.
Speaker 2:Some days, you feel like, oh, my God, what am I doing? And having those emotions are common, right? Especially when you're trying to juggle a lot of things. So, in those instances, what I do is I ask for help, and that's when we touched on having a great support system. So I'm not afraid to ask for help. I have a girl's night. I just reach out to my friend and say, hey, can I drop Nora off? Can she have a sleepover? And she loves that, right, she gets a bit of a break from me and I get to enjoy it with my friends. So don't be afraid to ask for help.
Speaker 2:And you know, having having passion, having a full-time career and being a mother, um, you're, you're on a journey and so embrace that journey, um, and you know it's, don't be too hard on yourself, um, and what you do, when you do follow your passion, is kind of fulfilling that inspiration for your children as well. They see you doing, you know, a whole heap of other things and they are influenced. I mean, you may not see it straight away, but they are somewhere getting influenced by what they see. You know, they see their mother juggling a whole heap of other things. Yeah, um, and I think one of the reasons Nora is quite independent she's only 10, but she is very independent it's because she's seen me being independent and doing a whole heap of other things. Um, so, yeah, I mean, look, these are some of the things that have worked for me.
Speaker 1:Lovely, I mean, that's a good advice, right? Yeah, embracing it and going along with it and actually asking for help. Yeah, um, and it's okay to you know, follow your passion. Yeah, while you're actually, yeah, you know you have a mom, you have your job and you also are a mom. Yeah, beautiful, there's nothing wrong in that?
Speaker 2:No, and I think women do it a lot better than men can in doing multiple things multitasking.
Speaker 1:We're inbuilt with that sort of thing.
Speaker 2:Exactly. Yeah, you don't have to give up on something. You can do this and that and also be a mother. So, yeah, look, that's how I've been doing it and, like I said, I it's not perfect. My life is not perfect, um, but you know we're. It's all about adjusting and and uh, carving out, yeah, time for each of those things and, uh, intentionally, um, being present when you're actually with your kid. Be present with your kid if you are, you know, doing modeling?
Speaker 2:you're committed to doing modeling 100 like during the week. I am working full-time, so I'm focused on, you know, delivering what I'm required and what I'm paid for. So, yeah, it's all about balancing, really just prioritising. Yeah, balancing it's hard but it's not impossible.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And I think once you start doing it you will get a hang of it, and then I think you'll realise you just have to push yourself to do it once and then you know, it will just be so easy to do it lovely.
Speaker 1:That's great advice, and thank you so much for coming out of the show. Your journey is incredible and it was really lovely to hear all about it. Yeah, thanks for coming in.
Speaker 2:Thank you thank you so much for having me. It's been a pleasure and yeah.
